open season on logos
There certainly seems to be a lot of interest in logos these days! As evidenced by Pepsi, GAP, Starbucks and others — people love to shoot down logos.

I find this phenomenon fascinating. I always thought logos, as important and visible as they are, were mostly ignored by the public at large. Vying and wrestling for our attention, they are just there, in all their crass glory — contributing to so much of the visual clutter we see every day. People generally tend to program themselves to tune out distractions — as a kind of coping mechanism.

It’s no secret that social media has given voice to the legions of people looking to express themselves. But where is this passion for logos coming from? Is it new or has it always been there? We know how much brands can mean to people, but logos? Has our capitalistic society so consumed our consciousness that we are now “one” with our consumerism, and logos really are like old buddies? 

Or is it something else? Is it simply a herd mentality that mobilizes and propels us to start throwing darts? It’s all in good fun, right? Logos are easy targets — simple, little defenseless visuals that they are. If we know and relate to a brand, perhaps we feel it’s our god-given right to criticize. After all, it’s our hard-earned dollars that made them who they are, right?

I’m guilty too

When it comes to logos, I’m as critical as anyone. With the GAP debacle, I was right in the thick of it and spewing my opinions. As a professional designer/creative director, there were real concerns — not just about the logo per se, but also about the process itself and how a major corporation was going about its rebranding while devaluing the design profession. 

Recently, Starbucks has also raised passionate discussions about their plans for a logo change. Again, the comments have been overwhelmingly negative and harsh. 

But I find something here very telling: with Starbucks, those in the professions of design and branding seem much more measured in their criticisms. The broader public, though, seems just as angry and snarky as they were of GAP. It’s open season on logos again — no distinction is made between the two experiences although both are somewhat different. I have witnessed this same behavior on several of my own logo projects over the years.

Pros and cons(umers)

As professionals, we tend to be analytical in our assessments — exploring the rationales behind the solutions; paying attention to the overall objectives and strategies. But for casual observers, the reaction is just a natural response. They either like it or they don’t. Are these the opinions then, that are “more real” in a way? Aren’t these the same people who will be reacting in the marketplace and making purchasing decisions? They certainly won’t be giving logos very much thought when buying their jeans and Grande Lattes.

Do the experts really know something more?

I think what it comes down to is this: When a logo and new identity program is rolled-out, it is usually done in a strategically deliberate fashion — planned just as carefully as the design phase. Logos usually aren’t just foisted on the public who are then asked what they think. At least that’s not how it used to happen.

Recently though, and partially enabled by Facebook and Twitter, some companies seem compelled to let the cat out of the bag early, before the logo has been given a proper introduction. Surely, companies know this will invite criticism, especially in this climate of logo-bashing. Maybe all they want is early buzz, even if it’s negative. They probably see no harm in crowdsourcing opinions in order to head off any problems early on. But does this in itself invite problems? At the very least, it is likely to produce inaccurate feedback.

Give change a chance

Whatever the case may be, it is clear that people have fun shooting down logos. But if people were given the opportunity to let them breathe, the result might be different. People don’t like change, so abruptly foisting a new logo on someone cold welcomes a negative reaction. 

It is common for logos to grow on people with time. As they gain familiarity, good logos fit naturally with the rest of the branding strategy and then all the rest starts to make sense, propelling the brand to new successes. When executed well, the change is noticed but not obtrusive. Hopefully, it’s never off-putting.

Many companies, especially larger ones, are notorious for possessing insecurities, particularly around identity change time. They like to test the waters. Understood. They also like publicity. 

But perhaps these branding changes would meet with less resistance if companies stopped jumping the gun. And for those who just like taking aim at logos, maybe they’d be a little less trigger-happy if the poor little things were given more room to live.


 


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01/09/2011 8:55pm

Yes...I was right there with you on the front lines of the Great Gap Attack of '10.
Yes, we love to tear a new logo down just as fast as we love to hate the rich and powerful like Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan and Jennifer Lopez and love to watch them crash and burn with media fueled fascination.
If a logo (Branding) sucks. It will. It's just bad designing (hello Tropicana, I'm looking at you!). But like you said, let it breath. Let it do it's thing for awhile until we see if it's as long lasting as New Coke was way back when.
Now, if they mess with my logo and font of The Beatles or Stones...There will be hostages. :-)
Great piece Paul. Thanks.
@ty_sullivan

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01/09/2011 9:20pm

I have more empathy when small or micro businesses don't have fantastic logos. Sometimes in the early stages of a business, as much as you'd like to hire a great branding consultant, the money is tight in the beginning. What's more baffling, though, is when major corporations, with their large marketing budgets, have uninspired logos.

I was driving by a KFC the other day and the logo just... well, what experience does that logo leave you with? When you see it, do you think "mmm, delicious Southern fried chicken...mmmmm."

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01/09/2011 9:30pm

Hi Ty — I appreciate your comments! Maybe that’s what it is — an impulse for tearing down the rich and powerful. I can understand this for the big guys, but not so sure why this seems to happen just as frequently on much smaller accounts.

In any event, some things should never be messed with — certainly not The Beatles or Stones.

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01/09/2011 9:37pm

Thanks for your input, Dane!

Yes, most smaller companies with smaller budgets are going to get what they pay for, and it is mind-boggling to see so many bigger companies end up with mediocre logos. KFC? Well, for starters, I really miss the name Kentucky Fried Chicken.

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01/09/2011 10:14pm

I have to admit, the Starbucks logo change does not bother me one bit, the GAP logo change seemed odd but again I did not get emotional enough over either to enter the great debate. I have spent money at both stores but I care about the product not the picture on a paper cup or a tag on a pair of jeans.

However, I do understand the importance behind design, branding, consistency, etc. Most of the population is so engaged with an emblem, a logo, that they get very defensive and offensive when expressing their opinions.

I could go on and on but I won't. Great post Paul, I appreciate your point of view as a designer...it opens my eyes. Thanks buddy!

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01/09/2011 10:33pm

Hi Matt — Glad I could shed some light on the thinking behind creating logos and a few of the challenges as well.

Thanks for the candid comments about how you respond as a consumer yourself. On the contrary, I would imagine that they are more similar to how most people feel. That’s why I get so surprised by the strong reactions that so often occur when companies redesign their logos.

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01/10/2011 12:22am

Thought-provoking post Paul, thanks for drawing my attention to it (Facebook pays off again!).

I think we all have some form of relationship with brands of all shapes and sizes, be they negative or positive. To my mind - one far less in tune with the concepts of great design - a logo changing is a perfect opportunity to voice their love or frustration based on that relationship. There is almost certainly a visual, familiar element to the critique, but the emotion fueling it is more likely a combination of all the factors that feed into our opinion of the brand.

It's actually quite surprising to me to see such vehement opinion about an image shift, as it puts one's submission to brand marketing in the spotlight. From a professional standpoint such as yours, I can understand the involvement and desire to comment. From a general consumer standpoint...well, I'm just glad I haven't been so lured in by Starbucks that I would feel fury at how they choose to present their coffee!

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01/10/2011 8:34am

Hello Paul,

nice post which helped me discover your blog which is great. I agree with a lot you are saying with one caveat.
I love change, and for that I know that anyone who wants to change always has everyone against him.

But now, I like change with a purpose, change that brings something. Especially if I'm a user, I want change that brings me more.

In this case, I don't get it. Why did they need to change. Ok say it's their brand and they can do whatever they want with it... Well wrong it's my brand, your brand, all of the 20ml fans on fb brand. So what are they doing changing the face of my brand, or more importantly why are they changing its face.
And to go deeper, why are they changing it to something I hadn't noticed in the logo in the first place?

And finally, I think it's ok for people to comment, they do it on all: the product the ad the logo. In fact when they don't comment is normally when something's wrong: it means nobody cares... ;)

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01/10/2011 9:16am

Thanks Steve — it’s great to see you here and I share your sentiments.

Personally, I believe logos and the overall branding strategy are some of the most critical things that a business can do (no matter the size) — and they need to be done right! It is the public face of a company and for smaller ones, it does the face-to-face when you can’t be there. Done correctly, it forms the foundation of a cohesive strategy that penetrates the entire range of communications and media touchpoints.

Even when budgets are tight, I believe it’s an investment that no business can afford to do wrong.

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01/10/2011 9:23am

Thanks for taking the time to visit, Freddie — happy to see you here!

Change takes guts and few seem to have the stomach for it, particularly in today’s economy. But while change is sometimes necessary, it should never be done just for the sake of change. That is fundamental to the work we do yet still oftentimes ignored.

I chose not to dwell too much on the Starbucks issue here, choosing to pose some more general questions about the bile spilled over logos these days. Don’t get me wrong, I am happily surprised to see that people care. After all, it’s what led me to write this post in the first place!

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Sandra Parrotto
01/10/2011 11:51am

I so appreciate you writing about "our behaviors" as social media participants. It takes a level of guts to question both our motives and the outcome of our actions. I have an emotional connection to a company's logo, particularly if I like them, buy their product and look forward to being in relationship with them in the future. I don't find it fun to "pick on" the logo, but I do care if they choose something that doesn't speak to me. SM has given me a vehicle to voice that opinion. That said, I don't want to occur as irresponsible or flip in my feedback, so this is a reminder for me, to think about how I communicate my thoughts, to question whether or not they really want feedback and care about how it'll land for others in the stream. Thank you for the post, and for summoning me... :)

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01/10/2011 12:14pm

Well said Paul. I agree that those of us in the profession take a more measured response, except in the train wreck that was The Gap.

I think Starbucks did okay with their announcement - featuring a video by Howard Schultz on the rationale behind it. It's also an iteration providing continuity so it doesn't bother me other than I tend to agree with @Note_to_CMO on how simplicity is not always a good thing. Removing the name does take a bit away from what they are. It'll be interesting to see how they roll it out and where they take the brand. I totally get that it helps them in international markets.

People I believe get passionate about logos when they're passionate about a brand. But perhaps it's not the logo so much as an aversion to change - they get comfortable with the way things are and like the 'stability' it provides in a world of constant change.

Someone talked about Future Primitive - how we reach into our past to ground ourselves in something tactile when there's so much change and technology makes things a little sterile, removed, unfamiliar. And perhaps that's why logos awaken the inner critic.

That aside, I do think in an always connected world filled with non-stop commentary on everything, people are quick to pull punches without understanding (or caring) the challenges a brand faces in creating / updating their identity.

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01/10/2011 12:23pm

Well said, Sam! I appreciate your stopping by (even if a little summoning occurred!).

I love hearing introspective comments like these and from someone outside the professional design profession. It helps me understand better how people respond to what we do.

I am trained to backup my design opinions with objective rationales, so it can sometimes come across as “flip” when others don’t do the same. Then again, as I noted in the post, designs we create are not ultimately meant for other experts so it raises interesting questions.

But to my mind, this kind of “art” is less about personal tastes (although there is always an element of subjectivity too!) and more about how it supports an established set of strategic objectives.

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01/10/2011 12:43pm

Thank you for your insights, Patrick!

The redesigned GAP logo and entire approach really was awful (more on my thoughts on that are further down this blog: Gap Proved Crowdsourcing Works… in Reverse http://bit.ly/gIKXAv). With Starbucks, while I would also quibble with a few things, I think there is still a lot we don’t know about the overall strategy. I wouldn’t be surprised if the name is still included in some way, at least at the beginning. We’ll have to wait and see! (all I know is, I’ve given a lot of free “advice”!)

You also raise a very good point about people being especially averse to change these days, and how a logo change can also feed this anxiety — another old friend is lost to the ages.

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Paul;

I don't really think this phenomenon is hard to understand given the social media era in which we are now in...

Companies want the instant buzz throughout thousands of networks to get millions of free brand impressions.

An the individual has a 'lottery' type chance of being heard and seen by the company executives so they weigh in.

Like it or not, I think narcissism is fueling the conversation over logos these days - both on behalf of the brand AND the consumer.

If you think about what a logo and brand actaully are (according to marketing theory) they are supposed to make a consumer feel part of the company - and for the company's part - they want to reflect the 'values' of their consumer.

The only reason the 'logo meme' seems to be so prevalent these days is that 'the people' can finally talk back - but unlike sending a letter to the company like we may have done years ago, now our message can be seen and shared IN PUBLIC...

And that makes all the difference.

Cheers! Great thought provoking post.

- Don
<a href="www.twitter.com/donpower">@donpower</a>

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01/10/2011 2:04pm

Gotcha, Don — thanks for your comments!

Your take on narcissism being the fuel that drives the outcry is an interesting one. I’m sure that plays a part and social media provides the means to fan the flames.

This is partially what I’m trying to get to the bottom of: is it really that people are so interested in logos, or do they just like to bitch? Not so sure the answer is as easy as we may have thought.

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01/10/2011 2:15pm

I think you are scratching an itch that may uncover an underlying condition (hahah).

In my opinion, I don;t think people are THAT interested in logos. I think they're more interested in being SEEN to be interested in logos ;)

Either way, a smart business would do well to capitalize on the trend while it's still a meme and not a MEMory.

Cheers!

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01/10/2011 2:26pm

Ha-ha, maybe true!

Whether people really “care” about them or not, the impact that logos and branding ultimately have on them and on business cannot be denied.

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01/10/2011 2:52pm

Paul:

I wouldn't want to confuse "people" with "Twitter"! People don't care about logos particularly much, but the Twitterverse gets the vapors pretty quickly. Why?

A lot of the Twitterverse are freelancers in marketing/design of some sort. We all have an opinion.

However, as I wrote (both on Gap and on SBUX) over at my blog, it isn't about our opinions so much as it's about real projectable data that proves the brand did something smart that will move them forwards.

In GAP's case, it was clear they didn't do their homework. In SBUX's case, we don't know - but the change is minor and we don't care that much.

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01/10/2011 3:17pm

Hi Stephen — I really appreciate that you took the time to visit and give your insights.

For me at least, you helped clarify something — and how Twitter can give a distorted view of what people think. This is something that we and companies listening in on Twitterville really need to be mindful of. Reaction on Twitter does not an accurate poll make!

Of course, it there are vapors, we’re all doomed.

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01/10/2011 4:44pm

Good post Paul.

The key thing that stood out for me were your statements regarding the consumer. You're right, for them it's as simple as "I like it", "I don't", or "I don't care".

It's common to over think many things when you work professionally within media. Sometimes you need to live and let live, and simply go with your gut. Or at least a well thought-out, strategically planned "go with your gut". ;)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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01/10/2011 4:56pm

Thanks, Cristian!

I frequently tell clients they need to step away from themselves sometimes to gain objectivity on how to best market themselves. I know this holds true of myself as well, and was one of the reasons for this post — to see what people really are thinking about logos.

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01/10/2011 8:31pm

Hi Paul,

I said I'd come by and say a couple of things, so here's my 2c. I just read & commented on Tom Moradpour's and this may be slight repeat, different take though.

I appreciate learning about marketing from you guys as it hasn't been my area. I am a fan of Starbucks as a customer, not as a branding strategist. I'm attached to the logo, but not one making a big outcry. The new one is fairly pretty, and a nice clean design.

As for why all the buzz and outcry, I have noticed the tendency for certain topics to bounce through all my connections and "go viral." I think logos are something we as customers feel some ownership of, and we don't get to have control or input in a direct sense over what companies do with them. Complaining is a comfy way to bond with our friends, who probably are into the same brands, right?

Just some thoughts... now back to zoning on MMchat :)

Jackie

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01/10/2011 8:46pm

Very interesting thoughts, Jackie.

I am actually finding these types of comments even more interesting than the experts’ — I know the type of issues they will raise! But what inspired me to write this post was the outcry from the person on the street every time there’s a logo change. I wanted to test that reaction and see how sincere it is.

I’m aware that Twitter may also attract a certain type of person, but I have to say I’m happily surprised how much logos can mean to people.

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Claudia Jackson
01/11/2011 2:14am

Paul,

First, my compliments on your thought-provoking post. As can be seen from the variety of responses, there are many theories as to why people are engaging in so much discussion about logos. Please allow me to add one more.

I think the involvement of so many people in these discussions is a sign that social media is beginning to achieve its potential. We are becoming more of a global community and expanding our horizons as a result. The business world is leading the way in global transparency, and marketing efforts head the list because the same campaigns are experienced by people simultaneously around the country or around the world. This is unlike many other fields, where there may not be as much shared common ground upon which to engage. So discussions of marketing campaigns, branding, logos – this is the common ground upon which we are building a sense of community. And the delightful part is your input can be from an emotional, academic, interested by-stander, career snarker or professional standpoint - no special credentials or background knowledge are required to engage. Participation can range from a simple “like” or “don’t like”, to sharing your ideas on Facebook, to more interactive discussions, as you and I had via Twitter, building on or challenging each other’s ideas and thoughts. Logos therefore present a common experience, requiring no special expertise to participate in the discussion, in an arena (SoMe) which allows you to determine your level of engagement! Only natural to see this topic become a recurring theme.

Should corporations be listening to these discussions? Absolutely! Why engage in a social media presence, make these types of announcements, if you, as a company, aren’t looking for feedback. But corporations need to put our reactions into context. Are they merely academic discussions, displaced anger at poor customer service, or a genuine dislike of what the company is presenting? As a consumer, I saw no way the change in the Gap logo would impact my ability to locate a Gap store in the mall. The letters were still going to be huge and able to guide me, and the colors were intact. However, Starbucks sells not only through its own stores, but in supermarkets as well. Their change in logo will impact me – making me take a little more time to locate their product because the logo has changed both in appearance, color and name. Will this impact my buying pattern? I have to say yes. I’m often in a hurry in the grocery store, and won’t have / take the time to search shelves for their products when I don’t spot a familiar look. The powers that be at Starbucks (or any other company whose marketing / branding is challenged by consumers) must decide, IF they believe I represent the thoughts and actions of others, what is the more important function of their logo – customer convenience or representing the vision of their leadership.

So is this hunting season on logos? It may feel that way among marketing professionals, but I say welcome it! Use the opportunity to learn about your consumers and perhaps even your company. And be pleased that these discussions are helping to build a sense of community.

Thanks, Paul, for our Twitter discussions and this thoughtful post. Don’t get too caught up in analyzing my comments – I’m likely an outlier in consumer response!

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01/11/2011 12:35pm

Claudia! Thank you so much for taking the time to really think on this.

I agree, the comments here have been amazing and really expand the value of my post — exactly what I hoped would happen!

You make a really interesting point — that logos and design issues give us in communications, marketing and media the common ground we seek to relate to one another. And since newer media platforms, like Twitter, attract these kinds of people, passionate discussions can take off like wildfire. We just also need to be mindful that we may be left with a skewed view of what the rest of the world thinks.

We all have two eyes and visuals are concrete things, making it easy to have an opinion. Of course, feedback comes in all shapes and sizes, and some opinions will be more “educated” than others but that provides another value — and we can probably agree that those insights are likely closer to what the general public will think.

Regarding the Starbucks logo, I question your view that the new logo will create a lot of confusion. Even if it does, don’t you think it will be short-lived? Starbucks can still include their name at first, maybe just downplayed and next to the symbol rather than part of it. But sometimes a short “growth curve” is necessary to achieve greater things, ultimately leading to clearer, more impactful communication.

Strong, recognizable symbols have been among the most powerful communications known to man. After all, when we need a restroom, I mean… when we really need to go, is it words or the little people symbols we look for?

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Jeannette Baer
01/11/2011 2:21pm

Paul,

Great post! and great points have been raised by everyone, specially some by Patrick Prothe "people are quick to pull punches without understanding (or caring) the challenges a brand faces in creating / updating their identity"

We have to keep in mind that it is very hard and challenging to change your image after you have 'branded' the face of your company. Time allows people to take ownership of that brand and sometimes they don't like you changing their product or image. Those changes can affect your company and make a positive impact as well as a negative impact.

Claudia Jackson brings up a valid point, one I can relate to; I know some of my grocery store products by their looks only (it's sad, but true) If they change their look, they have lost me as a costumer! it might take some time for me to realize that my favorite paper towels changed their name and image and by then; I might have created likeness or loyalty to another brand.

In Starbucks case I have mixed feelings about it, sometimes I think that the last thing I would want to remove would be "my name" but then you would have to understand their reasons! It will definitely interesting to see how all this will play out.

Looking forward to your next post!


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01/11/2011 2:56pm

Hi Jeannette — your comments are appreciated very much!

The point you raise about people becoming so familiar with a brand that they begin to assume ownership is intriguing. That certainly poses a large hurdle to breach when a company finds it necessary to create change. Yet, sometimes change is necessary for companies to grow. What to do?

Understanding this dynamic, a company would be wise to tread carefully. Sometimes people need to be weaned onto new things carefully, and I believe that if done correctly it can help a business’s presence tremendously, leading to new heights.

With Starbucks, your points are well taken. But if the new logo also presents opportunities for a bolder graphic vision, it could lead to packaging that literally jumps off the shelves. I don’t know if they will do this, but there would be no chance of them being lost then!

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01/13/2011 2:25pm

To me, a bad logo is a bad logo whether it is a big company or small. I can understand startups not having money for a high priced designer, but I still think "They LIKED that?"

In my case I think it's just that I've had so much training in looking at the visual aspects and flow of a design between my design communication, technical communication, and web design training that I just can't turn off the critiques in my head (which are not necessarily ever voiced). Also, after my logo design class about 10 years ago (where the instructor liked ONE all semester) you couldn't pay me enough to design logos. It's hard to do and not everyone can do it.

I do think too that people get attached to a design and don't want their brand to change. A logo change can signal more than just a change in look & feel. Prices change, products come & go, locations may change. Besides, when your logo just "works" it is generally hurts your image and recognizability (is that a word?) to make a change to it.

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01/13/2011 3:29pm

I hear what you’re saying 100%, Robin — logos say so much about a business or the people running it, and small budgets are a poor excuse for not doing it right.

Smart decisions do not cost money and working with a trusted designer or agency is a small investment that pays big dividends. Besides, I frequently see small businesses squandering their money on other things of little value (meaningless promotional giveaways, for example), so it usually comes down to priorities: if you believe in the critical importance of branding and strategic marketing to business, you will find a way.

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